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[495a] “That is inevitable,” he said. “Is there any possibility of such a one continuing to philosophize?” “None at all,” he said.

“Do you see, then,” said I,” that we were not wrong in saying that the very qualities that make up the philosophical nature do, in fact, become, when the environment and nurture are bad, in some sort the cause of its backsliding,1 and so do the so-called goods—2 riches and all such instrumentalities3?” “No,” he replied, “it was rightly said.” “Such, my good friend, and so great as regards the noblest pursuit,

1 For ἐκπεσεῖν cf. 496 C.

2 Cf. on 591 C. p. 32, note a.

3 Cf. Lysis 220 A; Arnold's “machinery,” Aristotle's χορηγία

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