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we shall reply. But all the same
if we expect to be happy, we must pursue the path to which the footprints of
our arguments point. For with a view to lying hid we will organize societies
and political clubs,1 and there are teachers of cajolery2 who impart the arts of the
popular assembly and the court-room. So that, partly by persuasion, partly
by force, we shall contrive to overreach with impunity. But against the
gods, it may be said, neither secrecy nor force can avail. Well, if there
are no gods, or they do not concern themselves with the doings of men,
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