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τίνος -- τούτου; The genitive has been variously explained as (1) dependent on γένος (Schneider), (2) in agreement with παραγενομένου understood (Stallbaum, Campbell), (3) like ἵππων in τί δὲ ἵππων οἴει; V 459 B (Jowett). (2) is in my opinion grammatically impossible. For (3) cf. V 470 A note Jowett's view is perhaps possible, but we should have expected simply τί δὴ λέγειςτοῦτο; Schneider's explanation (‘Pray what is this whose γένος you mention?’) is, I think, the least unsatisfactory. Perhaps we should read δεῖν for δή.

δὴ σὺ καλεῖς. Herwerden needlessly writes δὴ καὶ σὺ καλεῖς.

οὐ σμικρᾷ κτλ. ἰδέα, ‘kind,’ ‘class,’ is here a synonym for γένος as in Theaet. 184 D, Pol. 289 B. The dative expresses the ‘amount of difference’ after the comparative τιμιωτέρῳ (‘more precious:’ cf. πολυτελεστάτην in 507 C). Cf. II 373 E and IX 579 C τοῖς τοιούτοις κακοῖς πλείω καρποῦται with note ad loc.

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